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Present: Colin Baines, Steve Barber, Chris Bessent, Richard Greenaway, James Hunneman, Phil Morgan, Alan Saunders(to give guidance about website),Pete Smith, James Walters
<br>Apologies:Nigel Burt
<br>Absent:Richard Greenaway

==Correspondence==

Nothing of note

==Previous Minutes==

Accepted

==Matters Arising==
*The 100km award could be replaced by a “latest achievement” award, awarded frequently (not just annually) for anything that seems appropriate, eg a 750km flight, or 100km in the K8, an hour’s soaring when no other flights left the circuit. Peter Mason had offered a memento from the early days at the Wasserkuppe; this may make a suitable trophy, which would be displayed in the clubroom. We should re-instate the Achievements Book.
*Phil Morgan would make the Puchacz trailer serviceable.
==Officers’ Reports==
===Treasurer (Steve Barber)===
The first few months’ of the club year are always quiet financially and give no indication of the likely outcome for the year. First indications come from membership renewals; information should be available from early April.
===CFI (Phil Morgan)===
*The Instructors’ meeting is scheduled for Sunday 14th March. Topics will include a report and powerpoint show from the recent Safety meeting at Lasham.
*The accident rate is fairly predictable, at about 4 fatalities per year nationwide. We kept a clean sheet in 2008, but returned to the usual figure in 2009. Causes remain as usual – mainly low-and-slow turns and winch launching.
*Mutual flying is to be encouraged.
===Equipment Officer (James Hunneman)===
*I've updated the Equipment worklist. New copy to be found in Caravan.
*Skybrid Winch
**Thanks to Steve efforts (and Tony at Lee-On-Solent) we now have a repaired/renewed inner guard rail on the RHS cable drum
**Thanks to Trevor the guard rail on the LHS has been repaired, and potential for a "guide block" to help prevent future guard rail damage has been identified.
**Peter Ellison has offered to weld up the damage to a cable roller.
**The annual cable guillotine checks have been done, and they cut the cable perfectly. Grass and other debris has been removed and moving parts lubricated.
*Bus Winch
**The RHS cable shield has been repaired, and just needs bolting back in place.
**An angle iron replacement framework for the LHS cable shield has been welded in place-just needs the plywood trimming to size and bolted in place.
**As the soaring season is now here, I'll focus on getting this winch working. One drum is only half-an-hour's work away from being useable, the other side will take a bit longer. I will continue work on the throttle guide system.
*Pajero
**Replacement tyre obtained to fix puncture and damaged tyre.
**The back of the Pajero has been cleaned out.
**New dampers are being organised. One CV joint is clicking too, so we'll obtain and fit
*Blue Land Rover
**Starting from cold problem: Agricultural mechanic checked over the basics (incl glowplug operation) and suggested reconditioned injectors and a new fuel lift pump.
**New injectors and fuel lift pump fitted. Might have improved things slightly, but basic problem is still there. Engine does nor run better and smoke less though...
**New battery fitted to replace old tired one
**Passenger door damaged and repaired!
*Green Land Rover
**New solid pipe fabricated for clutch hydraulic system
**New clutch slave cylinder fitted, and the system bled
**Loose radiator shield fixed
*Land Rover Rebuild Project*
**Got the engine to run. Quick test drive showed all the basics working OK.
**Just needs finishing up: Sort twist in bottom radiator hose, re-attach wings to front panel, tidy-up in engine bay, adjust stop cable and put instrument panel back, etc.
**The Re-con injectors obtained for the other Land Rover were tried in this engine to see if they cured the smoke problem - they didn't, so no need for new injectors for this Land Rover!
*Generator
**We've been having a lot of trouble with smoke and poor running. Traced to a blocked air filter - a vicious circle - smoky exhaust leads to a blocked air filter which leads to a smokier exhaust, etc... We need to arrange a remote air filter such that exhaust fumes will not come close to the air filter. Fixing the exhaust would help too!
**There is still a lot of oily soot around the generator room - in windy conditions its possible that this will get blown over the aircraft again. I need volunteers to clean out the generator enclosure.

===Airfield Officer (Richard Greenaway)===
*The Hole & Cone: Richard would bring topsoil and finish off filling the hole and thus be able to remove the cone.
*Richard would get an estimate for tarmacing the hangar floor, and investigate the possibility of re-housing the generator outside in a separate shed.
===Publicity Officer (Chris Bessent)===
*The response to the Valentines Day promo had been exceptionally disappointing, with no identifiable uptake. The next push would be around Easter and/or Open Day
===Chair (Colin Baines) (in absentia)===
Notes from Colin:
*Club house decoration is now complete at a cost of around £250. Remaining jobs are:
#Chris/Rod deliver chairs
#Fix Equipment Officer’s white board in place of the chalk board.
#Pick the best notice board and mount it next to equipment officer’s white board. Only current info to be displayed. No permanent items. Yahoo is a much better repository for reference material.
#Fix other white board in middle of North wall for briefings.
#Mount Chris’s pictures in remaining spaces.
#Reroute telephone system and fit outside bell.
#Set up computer.
#Liz to provide a three drawer filing cabinet. She also has a couple of desks, but they need to be picked up in Bromley.

*We can now use the club house for all meetings and briefings (we have extra plastic chairs if required). The paraffin heater is very effective if lit for an hour or so. If we keep day to day activities close to the entrance it should remain fairly tidy at the other end. Aircraft repairers must clean up their space.

*Next focus attention on the toilet block and at least find a handle for the Gents’ door.

==Any other business==
===Replacement glider===
*The returns from the questionnaire had been circulated to the Board Members. All members were of the opinion that the majority of respondents were in favour of a club class glider. The two instructors also felt that it would have the further advantage of being available to more members . A higher-performance machine would have a better XC capability, but most XC-qualified and motivated pilots already have access to a syndicate aircraft; whereas significant proportion of those expected to fly the new glider would not take advantage of the XC ability. It did not seem justifiable to spend extra money, even if finances could be raised.
*Geoff Grayer had reported that money seems to be available from the Awards for All (A4A) fund, and with the Board’s agreement, made a start on the application process. However, it was felt that even if successful at the maximum level of £10k, it would still be a strain to raise the funds required for the high-performance glider.
Other possible purchases from a grant were briefly discussed, but it was quickly agreed that the rules of the A4A fund needed to be better understood.
It was agreed to progress discussions regarding the offer of an ASW15 by a club member. Action Steve Barber.
===Course/Task/Open weeks===
There is considerable doubt about the uptake for a course week, but it was felt a course could run in parallel with an Open week: agreed to open for week 26-30 July, followed by Task week 2-6 Aug.
===Open Day===
Sat 19 June, to coincide with Longest Day, with evening BBQ
===Sale of Me7===
No contacts from the previous advertisement seemed to be leading towards a sale. Agreed that it should be re-advertised at a much lower price. Action Chris Bessent
===Flight Manuals===
To meet EASA regulations it is essential that the Flight Manuals held at the club are identical copies of those held in the main file. The easiest way to ensure this is to produce new copies. Action Chris Bessent.
===Winch cable mod===
The BGA winching adviser had responded to our enquiry about inserting a black link below the chute (to break in the event of pulling the cable in too far). The adviser did not consider it to have sufficient advantage - there would still be a shock load of 1000N on the rollers; it is better to improve drum brakes and winch driver awareness.
==Next Meeting==
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 *The income so far this year seems to be similar to last year. There were 10% fewer launches in May 2010 compared to May 2009, but the total flight time was similar.
 *Some flyable days have had to be scrubbed due to a lack of members turning up.
 ===Equipment Officer (James Hunneman)===

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	*Similarly, SSS will require visiting pilots (bringing their gliders to Rivar Hill) to have a copy of their insurance certificate.		*Similarly, SSS will require visiting pilots (bringing their gliders to Rivar Hill) to have a copy of their insurance certificate.

−	==Date of next meeting==	+	==Date of next meeting: Wednesday 14th July 2010==
−	Wednesday 14th July 2010
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 ===Aircraft Officer - James Walters===
 *Nothing new to report.
-*James W to obtain an dimensioned enngineering drawing of the Puchacz'w wheel brake assembly to allow a thorough condition check to be done.
+*James W to obtain an dimensioned enngineering drawing of the Puchacz's wheel brake assembly to allow a thorough condition check to be done.
 *Colin mentioned that we should check the club glider fleet's compasses for accuracy. James H to liase with Andy Brind to organise a day to check them. James W thought it best to replace all compasses with new.
 ===Treasurer - Steve Barber===
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 Chris Clarke, James Rutherford, Matt Almond and Richard Barber. All proposed as new members of the club and seconded.
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+==New single seat glider==
 ==Any other business==
-===Replacement glider===
-*The returns from the questionnaire had been circulated to the Board Members.  All members were of the opinion that the majority of respondents were in favour of a club class glider.  The two instructors also felt that it would have the further advantage of being available to more members . A higher-performance machine would have a better XC capability, but most XC-qualified and motivated pilots already have access to a syndicate aircraft; whereas significant proportion of those expected to fly the new glider would not take advantage of the XC ability.  It did not seem justifiable to spend extra money, even if finances could be raised.
-*Geoff Grayer had reported that money seems to be available from the Awards for All (A4A) fund, and with the Board’s agreement, made a start on the application process.  However, it was felt that even if successful at the maximum level of £10k, it would still be a strain to raise the funds required for the high-performance glider.
 ==Next Meeting==
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 ==Matters Arising==
 *The Me7 has been sold. It is being shipped to Australia. Thanks to everyone who has made this happen.
 ==Officers’ Reports==
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 ==Launch point caravan==

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	* The glider trailer parking area between the Hangar and the clubhouse was discussed. The ground is uneven and the rubber mats don't appear to have solved the problem. There is a lot of space in the parking area south of the hangar, some trailers could be moved there. The position of the Keith Winch was mentioned, and the possibility of siting a generator enclosure (possibly a Luton van body) in the triangular section of land adjacent to the winch shelter. Subject to be returned to at next committee meeting.		* The glider trailer parking area between the Hangar and the clubhouse was discussed. The ground is uneven and the rubber mats don't appear to have solved the problem. There is a lot of space in the parking area south of the hangar, some trailers could be moved there. The position of the Keith Winch was mentioned, and the possibility of siting a generator enclosure (possibly a Luton van body) in the triangular section of land adjacent to the winch shelter. Subject to be returned to at next committee meeting.

		+	==Website and other internet areas of concern==
		+	Alan Saunders had kindly agreed to come to the meeting to discuss his progress with the club's website.
		+	*Alan has re-designed the website, and now the new club logo has been finalised, just wants to optimise some colours, etc before putting (and therefore "publishing") the new design onto the club's webserver space.
		+	* Wikis, Blogs, facebook pages, etc were discussed, in addition to having a better organised and searchable method for storing club documents (to replace the "files" section of the Yahoo groups)
		+	*It was decided that the Wiki (currently in "beta" testing by Alan and James H) was a good way to store data and documentation. Access to wiki will be derestricted. The current setting of being a committee member to be allowed to make changes will stay in place for the moment whilst people get used to using it.
		+	* The possibility of having a facebook page or a twitter account were dismissed for now as being a bit too involved and would require constant work.
		+	* A blog regularly updated with club news and reports about the day's flying, etc (members commented on benefits of the blog Pete S set up) was deemed to be a good thing :-of interest to existing members, and would prove to casual web surfers that the club was active. Given time, Alan will integrate a blog function (CMS) into the front page of the club's website.
		+	*Alan will update the existing website with the dates of course week, open week, etc.
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		+	==Puchacz canopy cover==
		+	*Steve B has created a temporary canopy cover
		+	*The club will purchase a new canopy cover from Vertigo or Emfo
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		+	==Club aircraft use for expeditions==
		+	*When a club aircraft is to be taken away for an expedition, it was decided that one person should be nominated to be responsible for returning the aircraft to the club in an acceptable condition, and arranging for it to be rigged. This person doesn't have to do all the work, just be responsible for it, and delegate tasks where necessary.
		+	*The person's name is to be entered into the DI book.
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		+	==Launch point caravan==

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 ===Equipment Officer (James Hunneman)===
 *Skybrid Winch
 **Thanks to Steve Barber for fitting a replacement seat to the winch cab.
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 *Congratulations to Jim Clarke for becoming a Half-Cat instructor
 *Congratulations to Richard Dann for becoming a Full-Cat instructor
 ===Airfield Officer - Richard Greenaway===
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 *Grass cutting: middle section being cut this week, both ends to be cut next week, prior to the Open Day.
 *Strimmed around wind sock, "H" chair, club house etc.
-===Publicity Officer (Chris Bessent)===
-*The response to the Valentines Day promo had been exceptionally disappointing, with no identifiable uptake. The next push would be around Easter and/or Open Day
+====Discussion====

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 ** Skylaunch can supply 2nd hand roller boxes with custom made brackets to outfit the winch with standard Skylaunch rollers. The price would be £1000. Roller parts only (would need a fair amount of metal fabrication) would be £600.
 *Pajero
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+** The front dampers have been replaced.
 *Blue Land Rover
-**
+**The starting problem has not yet been cured (although the warmer weather has eased the issue) The diesel pump timing needs to be checked and adjusted, This could be causing the starting problem.
-*Green Land Rover
+**The rear silencer box still needs replacing - parts are at the club.
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-*Generator
+**Generator
-===CFI (Phil Morgan)===
+===CFI - Phil Morgan===
+*Congratulations to Jim Clarke for becoming a Half-Cat instructor
-===Airfield Officer (Richard Greenaway)===
+===Airfield Officer - Richard Greenaway===
-*The Hole & Cone:  Richard would bring topsoil and finish off  filling the hole and thus be able to remove the cone.
+Not present at meeting, report submitted via email:
-*Richard would get an estimate for tarmacing the hangar floor, and investigate the possibility of re-housing the generator outside in a separate shed.
+*Grass cutting: middle section being cut this week, both ends to be cut next week, prior to the Open Day.
 ===Publicity Officer (Chris Bessent)===
 *The response to the Valentines Day promo had been exceptionally disappointing, with no identifiable uptake. The next push would be around Easter and/or Open Day
 ==Any other business==

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 Present: Colin Baines, Steve Barber, Chris Bessent, Richard Greenaway, James Hunneman, Phil Morgan, Alan Saunders(to give guidance about website),Pete Smith, James Walters
-<br>Apologies:Nigel Burt
+<br>Apologies:Nigel Burt, Richard Greenaway
-<br>Absent:Richard Greenaway
 ==Correspondence==
-Nothing of note
+==Outstanding actions from previous Minutes==
-==Previous Minutes==
+==Matters Arising==
-Accepted
+==Officers’ Reports==
 ===Equipment Officer (James Hunneman)===
 *Skybrid Winch
-**Thanks to Steve efforts (and Tony at Lee-On-Solent) we now have a repaired/renewed inner guard rail on the RHS cable drum
+**Thanks to Steve Barber for fitting a replacement seat to the winch cab.
-**Thanks to Trevor the guard rail on the LHS has been repaired, and potential for a "guide block" to help prevent future guard rail damage has been identified.
+**A new roller has had to be fitted. Can all winch drivers please take care not to pull the end of the cable through the rollers:- I recommend taking the gearbox out of drive with the parachute being 50-100 metres away from the winch. The drum's momentum will often be enough to get the cable end the right distance from the winch.
-**Peter Ellison has offered to weld up the damage to a cable roller.
+**The right hand (when viewed from the cab) half shaft sheared its keyways and taper. A re-engineered shaft and new drive flange has been obtained from Skylaunch and fitted (thanks to all who helped). These have been re-engineered such that the taper is of a larger diameter, and with a shallower taper. The damaged shaft had been replaced in early 2009 - this new shaft should solve this weakpoint.
-**The annual cable guillotine checks have been done, and they cut the cable perfectly. Grass and other debris has been removed and moving parts lubricated.
+**The LHS cable was removed from this winch and fitted to the RHS of the bus winch. A new cable was installed. Thanks to all those who helped with this.
 *Bus Winch
-**The RHS cable shield has been repaired, and just needs bolting back in place.
+** The cable shields on both sides of the winch have been replaced or fixed.
-**An angle iron replacement framework for the LHS cable shield has been welded in place-just needs the plywood trimming to size and bolted in place.
+** The drum and cable were re-installed on the LHS
-**As the soaring season is now here, I'll focus on getting this winch working. One drum is only half-an-hour's work away from being useable, the other side will take a bit longer. I will continue work on the throttle guide system.
+** The RHS cable was replaced with a used cable from the Skybrid. However, this cable is almost worn out.
 *Pajero
-**Replacement tyre obtained to fix puncture and damaged tyre.
+**
 *Blue Land Rover
-**Starting from cold problem: Agricultural mechanic checked over the basics (incl glowplug operation) and suggested reconditioned injectors and a new fuel lift pump.
+**
 *Green Land Rover
-**New solid pipe fabricated for clutch hydraulic system
+**
 *Generator
-**We've been having a lot of trouble with smoke and poor running. Traced to a blocked air filter - a vicious circle - smoky exhaust leads to a blocked air filter which leads to a smokier exhaust, etc... We need to arrange a remote air filter such that exhaust fumes will not come close to the air filter. Fixing the exhaust would help too!
-**There is still a lot of oily soot around the generator room - in windy conditions its possible that this will get blown over the aircraft again. I need volunteers to clean out the generator enclosure.
 ===Airfield Officer (Richard Greenaway)===