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		<title>Alan Saunders: Added Yaesu airband radio model details</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Added Yaesu airband radio model details&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# Spare (kept in parachute cupboard).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# Spare (kept in parachute cupboard).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* 1x ICOM F3002 hand portable with BC-193 charger mounted in the caravan.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* 1x ICOM F3002 hand portable with BC-193 charger mounted in the caravan.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* 1x 8.33KHz spacing &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;airband radio &lt;/del&gt;tuned to 129.975MHz (common field frequency).&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;New 8.33 channels for gliding are likely to be announced in late 2018.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* 1x 8.33KHz spacing &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Yaesu FTA-250L Ultra Compact Airband Transceiver &lt;/ins&gt;tuned to &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;old &lt;/ins&gt;129.975MHz (common field frequency).&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;New 8.33 channels for gliding are likely to be announced in late 2018.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Alan Saunders: Created topic for radio &amp; light signalling.</title>
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		<updated>2018-09-25T04:24:29Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created topic for radio &amp;amp; light signalling.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Radio ==&lt;br /&gt;
Typically, the 'line-of-sight' distance between the launch-point and winch is ~1.2Km - low power radio should easily span this distance but close adjacency of the two antenna and an aluminium pole severely compromise the antennas and reduce the efficacy of any hand-held radio.&lt;br /&gt;
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Previously, we used modified PYE (Taxi?) radios tuned to the 'BGA Common Airfield Frequency - 129.975MHz'. These were very complex to repair and there was some doubt that using this frequency for communication to the winch was appropriate.&lt;br /&gt;
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Licence-free, hand-held PMR446 radios proved to have insufficient range to/from launch-point, caravan, retrieve vehicle and winch.&lt;br /&gt;
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Around 2015, Business Radios and Licences were obtained. Fixed on Channel One (173.0625MHz) with no user (glider-pilot) ability to alter any parameters - even the power on/off button is disabled.&lt;br /&gt;
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* 3x Hytera HYT TM-600 or TM-610 mobile radios:&lt;br /&gt;
# Mounted in the launch point caravan.&lt;br /&gt;
# On a slide mount for the winch (kept in parachute cupboard).&lt;br /&gt;
# Spare (kept in parachute cupboard).&lt;br /&gt;
* 1x ICOM F3002 hand portable with BC-193 charger mounted in the caravan.&lt;br /&gt;
* 1x 8.33KHz spacing airband radio tuned to 129.975MHz (common field frequency).&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;New 8.33 channels for gliding are likely to be announced in late 2018.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Faults and Maintenance ===&lt;br /&gt;
2018: The winch radio was stuck on 'transmit'. No electronic fault found. The inadequate (1.6mm, 1/16&amp;quot;) pivots were broken, probably due to operators pressing too hard on the lower end of the switch rather than 'thumbing' the upper end as intended. Pivot point replaced with a slug of 'hot glue' - working OK so far.&lt;br /&gt;
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2018: During regular operation, the Winch Radio tripped the (10A?) CB. A reconditioned radio (with microphone) was purchased for ~£60. Geoff Grayer diagnosed and replaced the failed, reverse polarity protection diode.&lt;br /&gt;
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2018: The Caravan radio microphone failed. One of the pivots was broken but it still does not transmit sound, only carrier. Diagnosis in hand as of 24Sep18 (Alan S).&lt;br /&gt;
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September 2018: Transmitting on the ''Business Radio'' caused loud, annoying ''mush'' on the ''Airband Radio''. Increasing the separation of the antenna fixed this but the new LED lamps switching regulators are causing a similar problem. The antenna must be separated from each other and from the aluminium mast as far as is practical.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Light Signalling ==&lt;br /&gt;
Despite previous problems, the last evolution of the 'Launch Point Caravan' achieved adequate light signalling from single 55W (35W?) 20° beam quartz halogen lamps with minimal effort to line-up the caravan with the winch. This was mostly due to adequate sizing of the cables and subsequent minimal voltage drop.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Faults and Maintenance ===&lt;br /&gt;
2017: The up-slack/all-out toggle switch tended to stick in the all-out state - maybe having exceeded its 10K operation lifetime?. Subsequent to replacement the automated panel would randomly switch to 'all-out' or 'stop' from 'up-slack' - I believe the switch may have been replaced yet again?&lt;br /&gt;
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September:2018&lt;br /&gt;
I removed some 'extraneous equipment' and tested the unit in continuous 'up-slack' - after 30 minutes it went to a permanent 'all-out'! By disturbing the connecting wires on the board I was able to induce 'all-out', 'stop' and even inability to boot. The problems were in the negative (0V) circuit. Primarily, three wires into a single 'blue insulated' crimp were very poorly made and the 6.3mm terminal was '''very''' loose. I replaced this terminal with a stacked connector with two red crimps though this has strained the wire to the stop switch. Further testing revealed a fractured solder joint from the same switch which I re-soldered. After much disturbing of the board and wiring plus five hours of 'all-out' without a hiccup I believe this problem is resolved. Alan Saunders&lt;br /&gt;
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2018 Launch-Point Caravan&lt;br /&gt;
The 2018 caravan design has little consideration to correct wiring size. The lamps were running at ~10V (~60% of rated light output) and one bulb now had brown deposits, typical of end-of-life bulbs, especially those run at less than their rated voltage.&lt;br /&gt;
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The 55W quartz-halogen lamps have been replaced by 2x 36W 30° LED lamps switched via the MOSFET relay as designed by Alan Sparrow. At ~6A the wiring and multiple terminals still dropped ~1V but these LED lamps maintain constant output from 10V to 30V. Winch drivers have found visibility of theses lamps to be more than adequate.&lt;br /&gt;
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Unfortunately, the switching regulators in these lamps cause loud, annoying 'mush' on the airband radio.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Alan Saunders|Alan Saunders]] 04:24, 25 September 2018 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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